Like all women interviewed for PGC, Jamie Fish embodies every principle of this project. She’s not one to indulge the odd social misnomer that exists between women, and is a person who is profoundly open, willing to dig deep into conversations without hesitation. As the director of scouting and development at Heffner Management, Jamie is intelligent, articulates herself well, and carries herself with enviable confidence. It’s easy to be intimidated by her, but she is so quick to give a solid, warm hug that any initial nervousness quickly evaporates. As a person consumed with nature, she reveres its truths and follows the synchronicities the natural world offers her. She’s so keenly aware of the effect disharmonious energy might have (whether it’s her own or others) that she is a reliably calming presence. Her respect and admiration of that connectedness, that intangible current, serves as a perpetual reminder that there’s magic at work in the world.
When we sat down together to conduct this interview, Jamie further solidified herself as the encapsulation of the meaning behind this project. Without prompting, she began passionately discussing her understanding of a generation consumed with defining who they are through work (little does she know, this is an obsession of mine): “Part of the Gen X mistake… is that we were raised (thinking) that success means finding something you’re good at… and sticking with it. And if you find that thing, and you stick with it… then you can do all the things you’re ‘passionate about’.” Her recognition of this lofty endeavor struck a chord with me, someone who has been torn with an identical struggle. How are we meant to uncover that thing that is meant to sustain us creatively, financially, intellectually, professionally, emotionally? For so many of us (most of us?) that thing is elusive, and yet, remains often undiscussed.
As a way to help define my own direction, I have sought to uncover the ways in which other women incorporate their love into their work. Thankfully, this intention has lead to me women like Jamie, who has provided her own analysis of the dilemma. “We have three part careers,” she stated resolutely, “we first do the thing that we’re good at, that we want to do…and we learn a lot about business, about ourselves, about the world… and then we do the second chapter, which has a little bit of mastery from the first tier, but we add something new. Once you get that confidence from that second tier… all that information, and that wisdom, and that continued soul-searching, we’re led to the third chapter, which is about doing what we really want to do. That which is our love.”
With a master’s degree in psychology, it’s no wonder Jamie has the ability to deeply analyze and communicate this strange generational affliction. When discussing the potential of incorporating passion and business, the notion of the “slashie” arose. It’s the photographer/musician/social media maven that dabbles across several fields to find completeness, a seemingly revolutionary idea for someone like myself and Jamie who were brought up under a much more strict professional ideology. “But they’re Gen Y, baby.” Jamie smirks, “They do it all.”
Little does Jamie know, but this conversation, and others like it, have ignited a mission to, as she said, ‘do it all’. To personify the slashie mentality. Jamie has recognized the dilemma, and, in doing so, inspired me to follow her lead and embody a different philosophy. And that kind of wisdom is implicit to Jamie—a woman who ignites and inspires.